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Official Q&A: VEX V5 Robotics Competition 2025-2026: Push Back
2864: Clarifications regarding SG10 & GG9
As many other Q&A's ask regarding what does or does not count as a open portion of the goal, we are seeking further clarification for what exactly is considered the pen section as the goal. As <SG10> says, "A Robot can only reach into any open portion of a Goal to move Blocks"
We would like to know what exactly is defined as the open portion of the goal, and a few scenarios regarding interactions with the goal and preventing the movement of blocks, specifically in the long goals.
We have read QNA 2845 and are looking for further clarification on ways a robot can interact with a long goal.
- What is considered the open portion of the goal, specifically at the end of the goal, is it the vertical plane at the end of the goal that extends upwards, or does it end at the top of the open portion of the end of the goal.
- Does the robot in any of the 4 images below meet the criteria for being considered "Reached into the goal," as outlined by sg10.
- If a robot is parked against the back of the goal with a de-score mechanism/scoring as seen in the pictures to prevent the opposing alliance from manipulating the location of balls in the long goal, would that robot receive a sg10 violation due to being in the "open portion" of the goal.
![[Example Image]](https://events.vex.com/storage/markdown/uploads/0rkkVruAQGNNgOYSgEYTogbXAN1LcIqRAFYEnpm2.jpg)
![[Example Image]](https://events.vex.com/storage/markdown/uploads/aMefyLd4aYF2unyasac3YnbMMo6D9KJgnZYrdARb.jpg)
![[Example Image]](https://events.vex.com/storage/markdown/uploads/BsoB5A5gQikHcubALYIvWWcOGfdXtUbn5UXQMDnt.jpg)
![[Example Image]](https://events.vex.com/storage/markdown/uploads/r6ECxacPdaWPb6buhvLchCdmjthv4W6uayIVz8tA.jpg)
Thank you so much for reading our Q&A, Team 2550R
Hello, Team 2550R, and thanks for these questions.
- We are unable to clarify the meaning of "inside the Goal" beyond our answer to Q&A 2845.
- Your 3rd image shows a Robot that is inside the Goal; the others probably aren't, but #2 will be hard for a Head Referee to recognize easily, and has some risk.
- A Robot that remains in a stationary position at the end of a Goal, with no mechanisms protruding into that Goal, probably wouldn't receive an <SG10> or <GG9> Violation. However, you're relying on the Head Referee's visual perspective and this action has some risk.
If you're playing purely defensively in close proximity to a Goal (e.g., sitting still and not moving Blocks), you are at risk of a <GG9> or <SG10> call based on the Head Referee's physical perspective at the Field.